Hi Pastor Jeff, Ming Yu from youth here. I think it's good and cool that you post about your interests and what you do outside of directly serving Hope Church. Shows a pastor has to be relevant all the more!
I'm a great fan of sport too except I support Arsenal. Nevertheless I respect the work Sir Alex has done at United and I'm quite interested to see how he plans to work without Ronaldo and Tevez next season because I'm sure he has a plan, the same way Wenger has one but hasn't quite worked (yet), haha.
Anyway, I would like to ask what's your take on Venerable Ming Yi's lies and cover-ups. I have nothing to say about much of the inappropriate usage of funds; however, while reading about why he tried to cover up to protect his assiatant and the reputation of his organization which he calls 'baby', I felt there was much good intention and compassion about it. What do you think?
hi ming yu, perhaps arsenal will do better in this coming season :)
think fundamnetally, there is a mismanagement issue here. Whatever the intention may be, there is no need to cover up if everything have been done in a above-board way
I must say that the lyrics "but I still haven't found what I'm looking for" is a bit "unscriptural" though.
However, Jesus himself admitted to "eating & drinking" and people have accused him of being a glutton & drunkard and a friend of tax collectors and sinners.
In my opinion, it is the day to day character of a person that determines whether one is worldly, not the "unchristian" music he occasionally listens to.
The song is originally from the album Joshua Tree. Great album and still the best from the band...
I have a copy of the Book of Psalms with Bono's written foreword. He writes from a seeker's point of view not a theological one... and that is reflected all over the book of psalms which is basically the outcry of people hungry and seeking for God.
When we read Psalms, we can relate as it reflects our many of our own heart.
read your post on 'Leading on Empty', and saw that you were looking for the book 'Simple Church'. haha, i have one but its battered and endured some rainwater, so am embarrassed to give that to you. I am currently in melbourne studying- i think i can get one for you over here at Koorong and send to you, if you havent got it yet. :) Koorong is on sale now too anyway. haha. just let me know if you'll like one. take care and keep up the great work in sg church! i was back for holidays past weeks and heard your sermon on vision carrier. i was very moved, ps jeff. thank you for your sincerity and hardwork for Christ.
Haiz...Jesus mixed with such people with an intent of sharing the gospel of salvation and to preach hell, not to indulge in such things that could displease God. See the difference, lor.
Location: North-Western Part Of The Singapore Island, Singapore
I am a simple Singaporean guy. I grew up like most locals and I love my country. My dream is to do something really marvelous for my nation and nations all over the world. I am happily married to Claudia and we have no kids (yet?). I love relating with most types of people. Do drop me a line by posting a comment and I will surely get back to you. Soccer & food are my delights. Manchester United & Argentina are my fave teams.
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That's from Rattle and Hum! Yes, firstly it's a beautiful song. Secondly, this rendition is truly classic.
Here's their new song Magnificent
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0FIN7tMEIA
Listen to the lyrics.. beautiful
yes weizhu... from Rattle & Hum!
Will check out the new song... thanks.
I want to share one certain verse with you: 1 John 2:15-16, James 4:4.
Then why do you talk about the things of the world that is enmity with God? 2 Cor 6:14-18
The things of the world is for eg, MJ, your fav band...etc.
Thanks.
haha... i got your point.
I enjoy these things (like people enjoy certain food and sports) and these things are not enemies of God.
Things that opposes God could be things like satanic music etc. If I like those stuff, then it would not be right.
Do also talk to some other leaders that can give you more insight into what I am syaing here...
Hi Pastor Jeff, Ming Yu from youth here. I think it's good and cool that you post about your interests and what you do outside of directly serving Hope Church. Shows a pastor has to be relevant all the more!
I'm a great fan of sport too except I support Arsenal. Nevertheless I respect the work Sir Alex has done at United and I'm quite interested to see how he plans to work without Ronaldo and Tevez next season because I'm sure he has a plan, the same way Wenger has one but hasn't quite worked (yet), haha.
Anyway, I would like to ask what's your take on Venerable Ming Yi's lies and cover-ups. I have nothing to say about much of the inappropriate usage of funds; however, while reading about why he tried to cover up to protect his assiatant and the reputation of his organization which he calls 'baby', I felt there was much good intention and compassion about it. What do you think?
hi ming yu, perhaps arsenal will do better in this coming season :)
think fundamnetally, there is a mismanagement issue here. Whatever the intention may be, there is no need to cover up if everything have been done in a above-board way
I must say that the lyrics "but I still haven't found what I'm looking for" is a bit "unscriptural" though.
However, Jesus himself admitted to "eating & drinking" and people have accused him of being a glutton & drunkard and a friend of tax collectors and sinners.
In my opinion, it is the day to day character of a person that determines whether one is worldly, not the "unchristian" music he occasionally listens to.
well said :)
I retyped this comment many times, trying to think of how to explain this song, but I give up - it says it best by itself.
Let's just say this is the song of a man who has faith in God, and who is honest and unpretentious about his humanity.
Bono says the song "is in the tradition of the Psalms of David, a song about doubt which reinforces faith." I think Psalm 13 might be a good example.
The song is originally from the album Joshua Tree. Great album and still the best from the band...
I have a copy of the Book of Psalms with Bono's written foreword. He writes from a seeker's point of view not a theological one... and that is reflected all over the book of psalms which is basically the outcry of people hungry and seeking for God.
When we read Psalms, we can relate as it reflects our many of our own heart.
thanks weizhu and HT for the very useful info. it is most insightful!
Hello Ps Jeff,
read your post on 'Leading on Empty', and saw that you were looking for the book 'Simple Church'. haha, i have one but its battered and endured some rainwater, so am embarrassed to give that to you. I am currently in melbourne studying- i think i can get one for you over here at Koorong and send to you, if you havent got it yet. :) Koorong is on sale now too anyway. haha. just let me know if you'll like one. take care and keep up the great work in sg church! i was back for holidays past weeks and heard your sermon on vision carrier. i was very moved, ps jeff. thank you for your sincerity and hardwork for Christ.
cheers, mx.
hey mx, if you could get me one copy, that would be great. the stock will not be coming soon to Singapore. How much and how can i pay you back?
Am glad that the sermon has encouraged you :)
no worries ps jeff,
i ll send to the church address. :) will leave you a message here once sent. :)
have a blessed week ahead!
-mx
Thanks in advance... i will see you the next time you are here in Singapore :)
Haiz...Jesus mixed with such people with an intent of sharing the gospel of salvation and to preach hell, not to indulge in such things that could displease God. See the difference, lor.
2 cent opinions of mine. :P
Jeff, is it ok to have ur email address? Thks.
you can reach me at church@hopesingapore.org.sg
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